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- INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
-
- REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING
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- 2 September 1993
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- Reported by: John Stewart, IESG Secretary
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- This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
-
- These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
- by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.
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- For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
- iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us.
-
-
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- ATTENDEES
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- Bradner, Scott / Harvard
- Chapin, Lyman / BBN
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Crocker, Dave / SGI
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hinden, Robert / SUN
- Klensin, John / UNU
- Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
- Mankin, Allison / NRL
- Rose, Marshall / DBC
- Stewart, John / CNRI
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- IAB Liaison
- Christian Huitema / INRIA
- Yakov Rekhter / IBM
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- Regrets
- Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
- Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
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- Minutes
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- 1. Administrivia
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- o Roll call
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- o Next meeting is 23 September 11:30 - 13:30 EDT
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- 2. Protocol Actions
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- o The IESG approved moving the "Host Resources MIB" Internet-Draft
- <draft-ietf-hostmib-resources-03.txt> to Proposed Standard.
-
- o The IESG approved moving the "Definitions of Managed Objects for
- IEEE 802.3 Medium Attachment Units (MAUs)" Internet-Draft
- <draft-ietf-hubmib-mau-02.txt> to Proposed Standard.
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- o The IESG approved moving the "Definitions of Managed Objects for
- IEEE 802.3 Repeater Devices" Internet-Draft
- <draft-ietf-hubmib-objects-00.txt> to Draft Standard.
-
- o The IESG previously approved moving CIDR to Proposed Standard.
- Scott Bradner will reduce the review of the Operational Requirements
- Area Directorate (ORAD) to one paragraph (or so) for inclusion in
- the protocol write-up. The comments from ORAD ask for some small,
- purely editorial, modifications to the documents; however, in the
- interest of time, these changes will be sent to the RFC Editor after
- the Protocol Action announcement is made and the Internet-Drafts are
- being turned into RFCs.
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- ACTION (Bradner): Send a summary of the ORAD review of CIDR to the IESG
- so the write-up section of the Protocol Action can be completed.
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- 3. Working Group Actions
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- o Stream Protocol Working Group (ST)
- The IESG wants IAB comments on this potential working group. A
- question was asked about the BOF for ST; some attendees thought
- that the BOF went well, while other attendees disagree. It was
- agreed that the charter of the working group should explicitly
- say that there goal is *not* to produce a standards-track RFC.
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- ACTION (Knowles): Add text to charter saying that they do not want to
- produce a standards-track RFC.
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- ACTION (Stewart): Comment on the working group charter, especially
- making sure that the goals and milestones are quantifiable.
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- 4. Working Group Informational Documents
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- o "Guidelines for OSPF / Frame Relay"
- <draft-ietf-ospf-guidelines-frn-00.txt> as Informational
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- ACTION (Hinden): Talk to Moy about whether the document should be
- Informational or Proposed.
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- 5. Management Issues
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- o IESG Policy on OSI-related work, and IESG response to OSIXTND
- The announcement proposed by Phill Gross was read aloud. Some
- minor editing was done to make sure the announcement was not
- overly general, possibly being interpreted as "watered down."
- The IESG wanted to make sure Dave Piscitello had a chance to
- review the announcement. The assembled IESGers want the
- announcement to be mailed by Tuesday 7 September.
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- ACTION (Stewart): Get in touch with Piscitello and make sure he sees
- the documents and makes any comments soon.
-
- ACTION (IESG): Make announcement by Tuesday afternoon.
-
- o IETF/IESG Chair's approach to IPng decision process
- The announcement proposed by Phill Gross was read aloud. Some
- minor editing was done to the announcement. There was a debate
- about the appropriateness of this solution, but the IESG agreed
- that there was a chain of decisions that got IPng to this point,
- and this solution is the natural result of that path.
-
- ACTION (Gross): Send the second version of the draft to the IESG for
- comments.
-
- Allison Mankin, as one of the Co-area Directors for the IPng
- Area, asked for clarification on what "open" meetings of the
- directorate meant. It was agreed that having minutes for all
- meeting released in a timely manner would satisfy openness.
- Mankin and Scott Bradner said they would be able to give a
- progress report on the forming of the IPng Area and its
- directorate at IETF in November. Mankin and Bradner had some
- questions on logistics and if the IETF Secretariat could help
- provide human resources (e.g., minute-takers) and funding
- (e.g., paying for teleconferences). These questions will be
- resolved off-line.
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- ACTION (Bradner, Coya, Mankin): Work off-line to figure out what,
- if any, support the IETF Secretariat can give to the IPng area.
-
- o Scheduling of IETF Meetings
- Some IETF meeting attendees (IESG members and otherwise) think
- that the meetings are not planned far enough in advance. The
- major problem currently is the high demand placed on local hosts
- for logistic support (e.g., the many details involved with the
- terminal room). There were two issues discussed: (1) trying to
- make the current system work better, and (2) changing the system
- so that meetings can be planned further in advance (e.g., getting
- rid of some of the logistics demands on local hosts). The IESG
- was in agreement that major religious holidays should be avoided.
-
- ACTION (Coya): Try to think of ways to make the process better under
- the current system.
-
- o Do we want an IESG-wide policy on WG scheduling?
- The IESG felt that an IESG-wide policy was not necessary. They
- did feel, however, that the Secretariat would be well within its
- rights to instate a general policy which can be fine-tuned by
- area directors for their area if they wish. As a result, the
- Secretariat will ask for approval from an area director if a
- working group asks for more than two slots.
-
- o IESG meetings at the IETF
- The IESG will meet from 16:00 to 18:00 on Monday at the Houston
- IETF meeting. Additionally, the IESG are to meet in the general
- area of the registration desk at the conclusion of the morning
- technical presentation to touch base and determine if additional
- meetings are needed.
-